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Post by theenemy on Oct 6, 2005 18:56:49 GMT
It appears that the waterford Co. Board will decide on their manager for 2006 at their meeting next week. There is not much noise about on this question so I have to assume that Justin is in for another year!
What a pity it will be! Waterford needs success and I don't see the bould Justin being the man!
Granted, they have 2 Munster medals in the new century but one of those came off the back of Gerald McCarthy. Justin's task when he took over was to improve on that and get to an AI final. he has failed dismally IMHO. The team has gone backwards and with Mount Sion gone the omens are there for 2006.
What do the Carrick Beg people think?
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Post by CARRICKVIEW on Oct 6, 2005 20:17:21 GMT
i think it's time for a change of management myself aswell to be honest.
waterford no doubt have the talent but some of the managerial decisons have been terrible E.G. dropping your keeper before an AI semi/ quarter 2 years ina row
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Post by The Olympic Flame on Oct 7, 2005 8:50:22 GMT
Lads, in fairness, Justin has delivered 2 well-deserved Munsters to Waterford in the last 3 years. Not bad for a Co. not much accustomed to success
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Post by the great one on Oct 7, 2005 10:24:14 GMT
waterfords biggest problem is their full back line if they got that right they would give anyone a game which would bring a lot more sucesss hence less pressure on manager
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Post by outsider on Oct 7, 2005 14:42:14 GMT
Well Olympic flame considerin waterford do have 2 munster medals in their back pockets in recent years we have been doing well but unfortunately we're lookin down the barrel of a gun with a barron spell of no silverware on the other side...unfortunately with a very itchy trigger finger
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Post by theenemy on Oct 7, 2005 17:28:01 GMT
Lads, in fairness, Justin has delivered 2 well-deserved Munsters to Waterford in the last 3 years. Not bad for a Co. not much accustomed to success It's not good enough given the material available to him! He has had a number of chances in Croker. Fails every time!! He can't make the changes needed! A small example: Who else would have left Eoin Kelly on the pitch against Kilkenny? His race is run. Nothing further to contribute and the Waterford team is going over the top. Hartley, Flynn, key players not being replaced! Time for him to go! |
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Post by theenemy on Oct 11, 2005 20:29:49 GMT
It's not good enough given the material available to him! He has had a number of chances in Croker. Fails every time!! He can't make the changes needed! A small example: Who else would have left Eoin Kelly on the pitch against Kilkenny? His race is run. Nothing further to contribute and the Waterford team is going over the top. Hartley, Flynn, key players not being replaced! Time for him to go! Well, like it or not, waterford is saddled with Justin and his same old team again for 2006! how does he do it? Bluffed his way again after an atrocious period as manager. Don't come back about two Munsters!! That Waterford team was capable of contesting an AI! Nothing else should have been acceptable! Munster medals are a poor substitute. Justin stood on the line in the AI series incapable of marshalling his forces, not once, twice but three times!! Remember Waterford v Clare in Croker!! Remember Waterford v Wexford in Nowlan Park!! Remember Waterford v Kilkenny in Croker!! On each and every day changes obvious to a child were called for but our Justin knew better. And waterford paid the penalty! The sad thing is: I feel Waterford have lost their chance. Cork, a resurgent Tipp with Babs, Limerick and Clare all present formidable challenges. Waterford needed a new plan. They won't have it!! Sad!! |
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Post by The Olympic Flame on Oct 13, 2005 8:44:47 GMT
It'll be interesting in next years championship, who'll rule the roost. Will it be the new style of hurling favoured by the new generation of managers- like Allen and Daly, fast and furious stuff. Or will it be the old-school approach- favoured by Babs and Justin. Cork have the finer points of the game off to a tee, and with their hunger and exuberance, it'll be hard to see past them
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Post by theenemy on Oct 18, 2005 22:10:18 GMT
It'll be interesting in next years championship, who'll rule the roost. Will it be the new style of hurling favoured by the new generation of managers- like Allen and Daly, fast and furious stuff. Or will it be the old-school approach- favoured by Babs and Justin. Cork have the finer points of the game off to a tee, and with their hunger and exuberance, it'll be hard to see past them I think Cork are there for the taking! Their strongest line is, paradoxically, their weakest link! Their half-back line needs to be tackled vigorously by forwards able and willing to match them on the Cork puckouts. Their markers must be mobile enough to keep them under pressure, not allowing them to have clean possession with time to pick out their next move. Disrupt that line and Cork are vulnerable! Easier said than done! I believe Tipp have the capacity, under Babs, to do that job. We have several strong players well able to take on that role! Unfortunately Waterford will be found wanting under McCarthy. Prendergast was their only forward in 2005 capable of attacking the Cork half-backs. Eoin Kelly has the hurling but can McCarthy do in 2006 what he could not do in 2005? Control and motive the errant Kelly? And what about Flynn, another year older? A great hurler but not being motivated by McCarthy. Remember Nowlan Park v Wexford 2 seasons ago? Simply, Waterford will not have the forwards to take on the Cork half-backs in 2006. |
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Post by The Olympic Flame on Oct 20, 2005 12:41:20 GMT
I think Cork are there for the taking! Their strongest line is, paradoxically, their weakest link! I'd agree with ya there on that one, Curran is not the player he was and his lack of confidence inevitably branches out onto the rest of the team. Playing at such a pivotal position, he needs to command the game and then the rest of the team follows |
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Post by theenemy on Jan 26, 2006 22:29:28 GMT
/quote] I think Cork are there for the taking! Their strongest line is, paradoxically, their weakest link! Their half-back line needs to be tackled vigorously by forwards able and willing to match them on the Cork puckouts. Their markers must be mobile enough to keep them under pressure, not allowing them to have clean possession with time to pick out their next move. Disrupt that line and Cork are vulnerable! Easier said than done! I believe Tipp have the capacity, under Babs, to do that job. We have several strong players well able to take on that role! Unfortunately Waterford will be found wanting under McCarthy. Prendergast was their only forward in 2005 capable of attacking the Cork half-backs. Eoin Kelly has the hurling but can McCarthy do in 2006 what he could not do in 2005? Control and motive the errant Kelly? And what about Flynn, another year older? A great hurler but not being motivated by McCarthy. Remember Nowlan Park v Wexford 2 seasons ago? Simply, Waterford will not have the forwards to take on the Cork half-backs in 2006. How about it, lads. Wake up to the new year and let's have a little hurling debate going............or are we fighting a losing battle on this site......I hope not!!! |
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Post by CARRICKVIEW on Feb 12, 2006 11:35:34 GMT
i'm afraid its a losing battle.i've tried to round up a few troops by word of mouth but none of them seem interested anymore. maybre when the draw is made on the 14th feb. for the championships a bit of debate might start again
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Post by theenemy on Apr 19, 2006 22:05:35 GMT
It's not good enough given the material available to him! He has had a number of chances in Croker. Fails every time!! He can't make the changes needed! A small example: Who else would have left Eoin Kelly on the pitch against Kilkenny? His race is run. Nothing further to contribute and the Waterford team is going over the top. Hartley, Flynn, key players not being replaced! Time for him to go! Well, lads, what's the latest thinking? Am I right or am I right??Justin has blown it. The team is in some disarray!! Will they be able to recover for the C'ship.? I don't think so!! Well, like it or not, waterford is saddled with Justin and his same old team again for 2006! how does he do it? Bluffed his way again after an atrocious period as manager. Don't come back about two Munsters!! That Waterford team was capable of contesting an AI! Nothing else should have been acceptable! Munster medals are a poor substitute. Justin stood on the line in the AI series incapable of marshalling his forces, not once, twice but three times!! Remember Waterford v Clare in Croker!! Remember Waterford v Wexford in Nowlan Park!! Remember Waterford v Kilkenny in Croker!! On each and every day changes obvious to a child were called for but our Justin knew better. And waterford paid the penalty! The sad thing is: I feel Waterford have lost their chance. Cork, a resurgent Tipp with Babs, Limerick and Clare all present formidable challenges. Waterford needed a new plan. They won't have it!! Sad!! |
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Post by trotter on Apr 20, 2006 20:41:22 GMT
i agree totally with ya enemy and i'm not used to agreeing with ya if ya know what i mean.  |
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Post by CARRICKVIEW on Apr 24, 2006 20:59:10 GMT
i agree totally with ya enemy and i'm not used to agreeing with ya if ya know what i mean. jesus trotter i thought you died after the premierview fiasco last september/october.  you must have more info than me on enemy cos as far as i remember he wasn't on PV back den unless he had a different name........ |
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